Ons Europees voetbaltopic

zwammy

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Sangare vergeet dat het een donkere van Aerle is. Bal afpakken en geven aan iemand die wel kan voetballen.
 
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4x geel voor Benfica, waarvan 3x na een overtreding op Gakpo.
 

JMD

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Als het 2-1 blijft en je volgende week beter begint dan vandaag heb je gewoon kans om door te gaan.
Dan moet de passing voorin wel scherper, want het lijkt soms nergens op.
 

BlauwVinger

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PSV Eindhoven vs Benfica

Subtitle

By the way, I never had a quartz watch from the Seiko brand; it was a Casio’.

Body Text

S.L. Benfica topped the 1986–87 Primeira Divisão in a season that produced a six club Portuguese invasion in Europa. Defending European Cup holder FC Porto were joined by 1986/87 Primeira champions Benfica, Vitória de Guimarães, Grupo Desportivo de Chaves, Os Belenenses and Sporting Clube de Portugal.


Benfica’s first entry to the European Cup dates from the 1957/58 season. PSV’s made their maiden appearance during 1955/56. Benfica were eligible to participate in the inaugural 1955/56 edition which was one by Real Madrid. Parenthetically, Dutch coach Beenhakker affectionately called the trophy ‘the cup with the big ears’ during his spell at Bernabéu.

The Portuguese hadn’t been invited by the organizers from French magazine L'Équipe but eventually answered in style to win ‘the cup with the big ears’ in 1961 after having disposed of Barcelona and successfully retained the trophy one year later against Real Madrid in the Olympisch Stadion in Amsterdam. The 5-3 result forever remains and is saved for posterity as one the most dramatic scorelines in Europe.

At the time, the Hungarian coach Béla Guttmann had the audacity of requesting to have his paycheck revised by the board of directors at Estádio da Luz. For reasons undisclosed, his plea was turned down. Subsequently, uncomprising as he was, eccentric Béla Guttmann parted with a bold statement that would put the lights of the Estádio de Luz out for decades to come.



His declaration ‘not in a hundred years from now will Benfica ever be European champion’ went down in history as ‘the curse of Béla Guttmann’.

Before clashing with PSV Eindhoven in 1988, ‘O Glorioso’, as Benfica are aptly called, attemped to lift the trophy ánd the curse in 1963, 1965 and 1968 by all means but to no avail. Their two-legged 1982/83 UEFA Cup final against Anderlecht couldn’t bury the famous curse either.

Ajax defended their European Cup Winners’ Cup crown in 1987/88, but PSV from Eindhoven retained their 1985/86 Eredivisie league position hence entering the highest European echalon with the domestic 1986/87 under their belt.

Like Benfica, it wasn’t the club’s first appearance on European top flight level. In 1955/56 Rapid Wien eliminated PSV’s at their first-ever European Cup attempt. Early departures followed suit in 1963/64 against Zürich, in 1975/76 and 1976/77 against their bogey team AS Saint-Étienne, in 1978/79 against Glasgow Rangers and in 1986/87 against Bayern München. PSV were also an all too familiar face at UEFA Cup level from 1979/80 till 1985/86 onwards but never succeeded to get past the second round stage.


In 1987, ‘De Boeren’ from Eindhoven entered the first round of the European Cup, eying an end to their miserable continental spell since winning the 1977/78 UEFA Cup. How bizarre events would develop for the Dutch champions.

In Eindhoven, PSV were three steps ahead of Galatasaray. In Turkey, Galatasaray almost managed to achieve a 3-3 aggregate but failed in their frantic home mission in their cauldron called Ali Sami Yen Stadyumu. It would prove to be PSV’s one and only loss ‘en route’ to
the Neckarstadion in Stuttgart.

In the second round, Rapid Wien, who spoiled PSV’s European debut in 1955/56, couldn’t stop them from proceeding to the third round. The Viennese were twice on the losing end, the Dutchmen creating a comfortable 4-1 aggregate. Having entered the quarter-finals, it was only a peculiar string of draws securing PSV’s get-together with Benfica in Stuttgart. Indeed, how bizarre European events would unfold for the Dutch champions.


PSV managed to reach the semi-finals against Leo Beenhakker’s Real Madrid at the expense of Girondins de Bordeaux, courtesy of the away goals rule. An ugly Hans Gilhaus foul, his ferocious tackle seriously injuring Jean Tigana, was met with full praise and understanding and even applauded by his teammate Ronald Koeman. The UEFA wasn’t amused and suspended Ronald Koeman fort he semis. PSV coach Guus Hiddink, recalling Ronald Koerman’s toughness: ‘Ronald was easy to manage because he had this extreme urge to win. He liked to go to the edge of what was permitted’.


The Spanish Galacticos, this edition’s conquerors of SSC Napoli, the defending champions FC Porto and FC Bayern München, boasted the likes of Butragueño, Camacho, Gordillo, Martín Vázquez, Michel and Hugo Sánchez. They were destined to lift ‘the cup with the big ears’. An early penalty, converted by Hugo Sánchez, set Real apart from PSV for fifteen minutes only. Edward Linskens attempt to surprise Francisco Buyo, is probably best described as a ‘rollertje’ in Dutch parlance. Edward Linskens reminiscing: ‘my half-hearted fluke touch shouldn’t have gone in; it just couldn’t have gone in. The ball even touched Francisco Buyo’s left leg and continued to roll on agonisingly slow and would felt like forever towards the goal. In my recollection it went in so slow, the ball didn’t even touch the back of the net’. Adding with a big smile: ‘these days it would certainly have been classified as a sound case of matchfixing’.


The disappointing result couldn’t upset or move Don Leo Beenhakker, stating that ‘with all due respect for PSV, reality dictates Real will simply go the the final’. However, in Eindhoven, Dutch international and goalie Hans van Breukelen withstood the Spanish football armada almost on his own to secure a goalless draw and a new tête-à-tête with Benfica.


On the other end of the draws, Benfica outran FK Partizani Tirana, AGF Århus, RSC Anderlecht and FC Steaua Bucureşti, the latter by 2-0 on aggregate in the semi-finals. During their first round rendez-vous with Partizani Tirana, Benfica won 4-0 in an infamous home leg while 4 Albanian players were sent off, including captain and goalkeeper Perlat Musta. Partizani’s subsequent 4 year ban and instant expulsion from the competition resulted in a Portuguese walkover.

The first time the two 1987/88 finalists met, Benfica drew with PSV in the 1974/75 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup quarter-finals at their Estádio da Luz but lost 2-1 in that other ‘Stadium of Light’ in Eindhoven. Those were the days of Humberto Coelho, António Simões, Eusébio, Jan van Beveren, the Van de Kerkhof brothers and all-time Eredivisie top scorer Willy van der Kuijlen.


Having grown comfortable and familiar with draws only after the second round, PSV outlasted Benfica on penalties in an unremarkable, uninspiring and almost proverbial goalless final after 120 of unimaginative minutes. Befitting the occasion, both teams looked like even managing to turn the penalty shootout into an endless draw. At 5-5, and going into sudden death, Danish Søren Lerby shouted to goalkeeper Hans van Breukelen in plain Dutch: ‘pak er nou eens een!’ as in ‘for heaven’s sake; just finally stop one!’


Which he did, after subsitute Anton Janssen had put number six past Silvana. Hans van Breukelen parried António Veloso’s sudden-death effort, instrumental in Benfica’s fourth consecutive defeat in an European final.

One particular player from PSV’s squad from those halcyon days was Berry van Aerle, now scout and fans coordinator with ‘De Boeren’ after a post-football career as, well, a postman. Recalling PSV’s historic 1987/88 treble of the domestic double and lifting the European Cup in an interview with UEFA: ‘It wasn't a particularly good match, with both teams very cautious, but it was exciting until the end and a tense penalty shoot-out. It does not matter how you win it, just as long as you do. Now we're in the history books forever: we lifted that trophy’.


At the time Guus Hiddink was at the helm and instrumental in PSV’s successful European attempt. As a player he had previously joined the club for the 19070/71 and 1971/72 season. Guus Hiddink had served as an assistent coach before accepting sole responsibility in the dug-out. He masterminded three consecutive Eredivisie titles, three consecutive KNVB Bekers and of course the European Cup in the historic treble-winning season of 1987–88.


Berry van Aerle continuing: ‘We had a fantastic team. Our unity was unique. Guus Hiddink gave all the squad – numbers 1 to 20 – the feeling of being part of the team, keeping everyone satisfied. He is a master of creating a close-knit group, making every player feel valued. We also had a perfect blend of hard-working players and quality, the likes of Ronald Koeman, Erik Gerets, Søren Lerby, Wim Kieft and Gerald Vanenburg surrounded by Jan Heintze, Willy van de Kerkhof and Hans Gillhaus’.

PSV became the third Dutch side to lift the most prestigious European trophy after Feyenoord and Ajax. Their ‘anti-hero’ Berry van Aerle was the pinnacle of attention in one of Theo Maassen’s theatre shows, the nationally renowned actor/comedian from Eindhoven, who stole the 1977/78 UEFA Cup from PSV’s trophy room. On the rightback: ‘Berry van Aerle wasn’t the best player we ever had. Naive as he was, at the time he was probably the only player in the Eredivisie who annually paid his club membership’. Continuing: ‘After ten years of loyal service, the club gave him a quartz watch with the inscription Seiko, telling him it was Japanese for Berry’.

Berry van Aerle, whose powerful right-wing runs earned him the nickname ‘Turbo Berry’, is your regular rural provincial bloke; a far cry from today’s parallel universe, dictated by players with headsets the size of refrigerators, never short of disdain for their zealotic worshippers.

Berry van Aerle, in his biography ‘Ik, Berry’, mildly countering: ‘Theo Maassen was never treasurer at PSV. It’s absolute nonsense. I never paid any club contribution. By the way, I never had a quartz watch from the Seiko brand; it was a Casio’.
 

Mario

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Als het 2-1 blijft en je volgende week beter begint dan vandaag heb je gewoon kans om door te gaan.
Dan moet de passing voorin wel scherper, want het lijkt soms nergens op.
PSV heeft desondanks toch aardig wat kansen gekregen. Ik denk zeker dat er thuis mogelijkheden liggen. Voor het eerst sinds jaren lijkt het Europees weer ergens op. Wellicht liggen er meer kansen in de EL, maar deelname CL zou toch wel heel erg leuk zijn.
 

Hankie

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PSV Eindhoven vs Benfica

Subtitle


By the way, I never had a quartz watch from the Seiko brand; it was a Casio’.

Body Text

S.L. Benfica topped the 1986–87 Primeira Divisão in a season that produced a six club Portuguese invasion in Europa. Defending European Cup holder FC Porto were joined by 1986/87 Primeira champions Benfica, Vitória de Guimarães, Grupo Desportivo de Chaves, Os Belenenses and Sporting Clube de Portugal.


Benfica’s first entry to the European Cup dates from the 1957/58 season. PSV’s made their maiden appearance during 1955/56. Benfica were eligible to participate in the inaugural 1955/56 edition which was one by Real Madrid. Parenthetically, Dutch coach Beenhakker affectionately called the trophy ‘the cup with the big ears’ during his spell at Bernabéu.

The Portuguese hadn’t been invited by the organizers from French magazine L'Équipe but eventually answered in style to win ‘the cup with the big ears’ in 1961 after having disposed of Barcelona and successfully retained the trophy one year later against Real Madrid in the Olympisch Stadion in Amsterdam. The 5-3 result forever remains and is saved for posterity as one the most dramatic scorelines in Europe.

At the time, the Hungarian coach Béla Guttmann had the audacity of requesting to have his paycheck revised by the board of directors at Estádio da Luz. For reasons undisclosed, his plea was turned down. Subsequently, uncomprising as he was, eccentric Béla Guttmann parted with a bold statement that would put the lights of the Estádio de Luz out for decades to come.



His declaration ‘not in a hundred years from now will Benfica ever be European champion’ went down in history as ‘the curse of Béla Guttmann’.

Before clashing with PSV Eindhoven in 1988, ‘O Glorioso’, as Benfica are aptly called, attemped to lift the trophy ánd the curse in 1963, 1965 and 1968 by all means but to no avail. Their two-legged 1982/83 UEFA Cup final against Anderlecht couldn’t bury the famous curse either.

Ajax defended their European Cup Winners’ Cup crown in 1987/88, but PSV from Eindhoven retained their 1985/86 Eredivisie league position hence entering the highest European echalon with the domestic 1986/87 under their belt.

Like Benfica, it wasn’t the club’s first appearance on European top flight level. In 1955/56 Rapid Wien eliminated PSV’s at their first-ever European Cup attempt. Early departures followed suit in 1963/64 against Zürich, in 1975/76 and 1976/77 against their bogey team AS Saint-Étienne, in 1978/79 against Glasgow Rangers and in 1986/87 against Bayern München. PSV were also an all too familiar face at UEFA Cup level from 1979/80 till 1985/86 onwards but never succeeded to get past the second round stage.


In 1987, ‘De Boeren’ from Eindhoven entered the first round of the European Cup, eying an end to their miserable continental spell since winning the 1977/78 UEFA Cup. How bizarre events would develop for the Dutch champions.

In Eindhoven, PSV were three steps ahead of Galatasaray. In Turkey, Galatasaray almost managed to achieve a 3-3 aggregate but failed in their frantic home mission in their cauldron called Ali Sami Yen Stadyumu. It would prove to be PSV’s one and only loss ‘en route’ to
the Neckarstadion in Stuttgart.

In the second round, Rapid Wien, who spoiled PSV’s European debut in 1955/56, couldn’t stop them from proceeding to the third round. The Viennese were twice on the losing end, the Dutchmen creating a comfortable 4-1 aggregate. Having entered the quarter-finals, it was only a peculiar string of draws securing PSV’s get-together with Benfica in Stuttgart. Indeed, how bizarre European events would unfold for the Dutch champions.


PSV managed to reach the semi-finals against Leo Beenhakker’s Real Madrid at the expense of Girondins de Bordeaux, courtesy of the away goals rule. An ugly Hans Gilhaus foul, his ferocious tackle seriously injuring Jean Tigana, was met with full praise and understanding and even applauded by his teammate Ronald Koeman. The UEFA wasn’t amused and suspended Ronald Koeman fort he semis. PSV coach Guus Hiddink, recalling Ronald Koerman’s toughness: ‘Ronald was easy to manage because he had this extreme urge to win. He liked to go to the edge of what was permitted’.


The Spanish Galacticos, this edition’s conquerors of SSC Napoli, the defending champions FC Porto and FC Bayern München, boasted the likes of Butragueño, Camacho, Gordillo, Martín Vázquez, Michel and Hugo Sánchez. They were destined to lift ‘the cup with the big ears’. An early penalty, converted by Hugo Sánchez, set Real apart from PSV for fifteen minutes only. Edward Linskens attempt to surprise Francisco Buyo, is probably best described as a ‘rollertje’ in Dutch parlance. Edward Linskens reminiscing: ‘my half-hearted fluke touch shouldn’t have gone in; it just couldn’t have gone in. The ball even touched Francisco Buyo’s left leg and continued to roll on agonisingly slow and would felt like forever towards the goal. In my recollection it went in so slow, the ball didn’t even touch the back of the net’. Adding with a big smile: ‘these days it would certainly have been classified as a sound case of matchfixing’.


The disappointing result couldn’t upset or move Don Leo Beenhakker, stating that ‘with all due respect for PSV, reality dictates Real will simply go the the final’. However, in Eindhoven, Dutch international and goalie Hans van Breukelen withstood the Spanish football armada almost on his own to secure a goalless draw and a new tête-à-tête with Benfica.


On the other end of the draws, Benfica outran FK Partizani Tirana, AGF Århus, RSC Anderlecht and FC Steaua Bucureşti, the latter by 2-0 on aggregate in the semi-finals. During their first round rendez-vous with Partizani Tirana, Benfica won 4-0 in an infamous home leg while 4 Albanian players were sent off, including captain and goalkeeper Perlat Musta. Partizani’s subsequent 4 year ban and instant expulsion from the competition resulted in a Portuguese walkover.

The first time the two 1987/88 finalists met, Benfica drew with PSV in the 1974/75 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup quarter-finals at their Estádio da Luz but lost 2-1 in that other ‘Stadium of Light’ in Eindhoven. Those were the days of Humberto Coelho, António Simões, Eusébio, Jan van Beveren, the Van de Kerkhof brothers and all-time Eredivisie top scorer Willy van der Kuijlen.


Having grown comfortable and familiar with draws only after the second round, PSV outlasted Benfica on penalties in an unremarkable, uninspiring and almost proverbial goalless final after 120 of unimaginative minutes. Befitting the occasion, both teams looked like even managing to turn the penalty shootout into an endless draw. At 5-5, and going into sudden death, Danish Søren Lerby shouted to goalkeeper Hans van Breukelen in plain Dutch: ‘pak er nou eens een!’ as in ‘for heaven’s sake; just finally stop one!’


Which he did, after subsitute Anton Janssen had put number six past Silvana. Hans van Breukelen parried António Veloso’s sudden-death effort, instrumental in Benfica’s fourth consecutive defeat in an European final.

One particular player from PSV’s squad from those halcyon days was Berry van Aerle, now scout and fans coordinator with ‘De Boeren’ after a post-football career as, well, a postman. Recalling PSV’s historic 1987/88 treble of the domestic double and lifting the European Cup in an interview with UEFA: ‘It wasn't a particularly good match, with both teams very cautious, but it was exciting until the end and a tense penalty shoot-out. It does not matter how you win it, just as long as you do. Now we're in the history books forever: we lifted that trophy’.


At the time Guus Hiddink was at the helm and instrumental in PSV’s successful European attempt. As a player he had previously joined the club for the 19070/71 and 1971/72 season. Guus Hiddink had served as an assistent coach before accepting sole responsibility in the dug-out. He masterminded three consecutive Eredivisie titles, three consecutive KNVB Bekers and of course the European Cup in the historic treble-winning season of 1987–88.


Berry van Aerle continuing: ‘We had a fantastic team. Our unity was unique. Guus Hiddink gave all the squad – numbers 1 to 20 – the feeling of being part of the team, keeping everyone satisfied. He is a master of creating a close-knit group, making every player feel valued. We also had a perfect blend of hard-working players and quality, the likes of Ronald Koeman, Erik Gerets, Søren Lerby, Wim Kieft and Gerald Vanenburg surrounded by Jan Heintze, Willy van de Kerkhof and Hans Gillhaus’.

PSV became the third Dutch side to lift the most prestigious European trophy after Feyenoord and Ajax. Their ‘anti-hero’ Berry van Aerle was the pinnacle of attention in one of Theo Maassen’s theatre shows, the nationally renowned actor/comedian from Eindhoven, who stole the 1977/78 UEFA Cup from PSV’s trophy room. On the rightback: ‘Berry van Aerle wasn’t the best player we ever had. Naive as he was, at the time he was probably the only player in the Eredivisie who annually paid his club membership’. Continuing: ‘After ten years of loyal service, the club gave him a quartz watch with the inscription Seiko, telling him it was Japanese for Berry’.

Berry van Aerle, whose powerful right-wing runs earned him the nickname ‘Turbo Berry’, is your regular rural provincial bloke; a far cry from today’s parallel universe, dictated by players with headsets the size of refrigerators, never short of disdain for their zealotic worshippers.

Berry van Aerle, in his biography ‘Ik, Berry’, mildly countering: ‘Theo Maassen was never treasurer at PSV. It’s absolute nonsense. I never paid any club contribution. By the way, I never had a quartz watch from the Seiko brand; it was a Casio’.
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De Groene Scout

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De geluiden zijn wel heel erg positief allemaal. En iedereen rekent al op een volgende ronde.
Moet nog wel even gewonnen worden van een ploeg met trainer die vast wel een plan gaan bedenken om er een vreselijke anti-voetbalavond van te maken voor een 0-0.
 

Batigoal

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Benfica had Madueke aardig in de tang. Als ze hetzelfde weten te doen volgende week met Gapko, dan wordt het een lastig verhaal voor PSV, want aanvallend is PSV heel afhankelijk van die 2.
 

U.G.

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Benfica had Madueke aardig in de tang. Als ze hetzelfde weten te doen volgende week met Gapko, dan wordt het een lastig verhaal voor PSV, want aanvallend is PSV heel afhankelijk van die 2.

Vind je ? In de 1ste helft was hij echt de enige PSV'er met wat dreiging, Grimaldo was 'm echt steeds kwijt.

Een vrij matig Benfica in de 2de helft, geen spiermassa op dat middenveld. Weigl scoorde dan wel maar is gewoon een zwakke schakel in de as, en J. Mario wint zelden een fysiek duel. Ik zie wel weer meer diepgang in zijn spel. Yaremchuck is er net, maar op het eerste oog zie ik niet direct waarom Vinicius daarvoor op de bank moet zitten. Opvallend dat serieuze aanvallende impulsen echt nog stééds moeten komen van het oude Portugees duo Rafa en Pizzi. Pijnlijk. Eigenlijk meer van hetzelfde bij Benfica. 50/50 volgende week.
 

JMD

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De geluiden zijn wel heel erg positief allemaal. En iedereen rekent al op een volgende ronde.
Moet nog wel even gewonnen worden van een ploeg met trainer die vast wel een plan gaan bedenken om er een vreselijke anti-voetbalavond van te maken voor een 0-0.
Ik zie het idd ook nog niet gebeuren... Echt zo'n luizige wedstrijd waarin de Portugezen met de eerste counter in de 80e minuut 0-1 maken ofzo.
 
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